1 00:00:13,842 --> 00:00:16,988 Hi, I'm Jules Azner and welcome to everything Emmy's 2 00:00:16,989 --> 00:00:19,069 "The ones Emmy forgot" 3 00:00:19,104 --> 00:00:21,055 This is the Hollywood Entertainment Museum 4 00:00:21,056 --> 00:00:23,946 where you can stand on the set of the Emmy winning show Cheers, 5 00:00:23,947 --> 00:00:24,763 like I am doing. 6 00:00:24,764 --> 00:00:27,386 Now there are a lot of talents in the TV industry, 7 00:00:27,387 --> 00:00:30,190 and only 5 nominees in each Emmy's category. 8 00:00:30,191 --> 00:00:34,404 So sometime those who should receive an Emmy nomination don't end up getting one. 9 00:00:34,405 --> 00:00:38,605 During the next half hour we'll find out who won't be honored on Emmy night, 10 00:00:38,606 --> 00:00:41,295 why that is, and what they can do to change things. 11 00:00:41,296 --> 00:00:44,415 We'll start with the list of non-nominees. 12 00:00:47,399 --> 00:00:50,938 Emmy night awards ceremonies and parties are always packed. 13 00:00:50,939 --> 00:00:56,003 But think how big the party would be if every one who didn't get nominated came, 14 00:00:56,004 --> 00:00:58,563 You'd definitively have to give a bigger venue! 15 00:00:58,564 --> 00:01:02,942 Here's a list of the major shows and actors that stand critics and fans 16 00:01:02,943 --> 00:01:05,124 when they didn't receive an Emmy nomination 17 00:01:05,125 --> 00:01:08,453 If we can't stop her... 18 00:01:08,454 --> 00:01:13,178 Come on! Say it. We are bloody-well talking about this. 19 00:01:13,179 --> 00:01:17,365 The casting crew of Buffy the vampire slayer was overlooked, 20 00:01:17,366 --> 00:01:21,124 but co-star Alyson Hannigan's trying to keep a stiff upper lip. 21 00:01:21,125 --> 00:01:24,322 I don't get my hopes for anything, cos... 22 00:01:24,323 --> 00:01:27,489 gonna have a disappointment and have a bad day all day, you know. 23 00:01:27,490 --> 00:01:30,382 I get kind of nervous around awards ceremony to begin with 24 00:01:30,383 --> 00:01:37,044 So I don't... an award ceremony really is a recognition of, I guess, your work, but it's just... you know... I don't... I don't know 25 00:01:37,045 --> 00:01:40,116 A lot easier to come to these, and just wear jeans and a shirt. 26 00:01:40,117 --> 00:01:44,421 Angel's David Boreanaz won't have to dust off his Tux come Emmy night. 27 00:01:44,422 --> 00:01:48,060 Another major Emmy snub was for a whole network. 28 00:01:48,061 --> 00:01:53,469 Despite hundreds of possible Emmy nominations, the WB came up empty-handed. 29 00:01:53,470 --> 00:02:00,452 The WB, home to such critically-acclaimed shows as Girlmore girls and Buffy the Vampire Slayer, 30 00:02:00,453 --> 00:02:03,397 did receive Emmy nominations in the past. 31 00:02:03,398 --> 00:02:06,587 But this year the network has absolutely none. 32 00:02:06,588 --> 00:02:10,038 This slide is a topic of conversation in the industry, 33 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:17,904 so we asked TV expert Tom O'Neil host of Gold Derby.com and Irma Wanda for some insight. 34 00:02:17,905 --> 00:02:23,400 I think it's because the WB isn't represented in every household in the nation, 35 00:02:23,401 --> 00:02:25,527 and this largely is a popularity contest. 36 00:02:25,528 --> 00:02:28,926 So when you don't have the ratings and you don't have a big showing on the Nielsens, 37 00:02:28,927 --> 00:02:32,652 the voters don't really respect those shows that are lower on the list. 38 00:02:32,653 --> 00:02:39,515 The single most outrageous thing of the Emmy nominations this year is the fact that the entire WB was shut out. 39 00:02:39,516 --> 00:02:44,410 Not even a single nomination for film editing or hair styling. 40 00:02:44,411 --> 00:02:48,617 The network that the critics tell us have 2 of the best shows on the tube: 41 00:02:48,618 --> 00:02:52,554 The Girlmore girls and Buffy the Vampire Slayer. That's outrageous. 42 00:02:52,555 --> 00:02:55,278 OK campers. It almost stab time. 43 00:02:55,279 --> 00:02:56,192 You 2, get her. 44 00:02:56,193 --> 00:03:02,017 One of the WB network's biggest hope for an Emmy nomination, was Buffy the Vampire Slayer. 45 00:03:02,018 --> 00:03:05,535 Sarah Michelle Gellar and Buffy have several problems. 46 00:03:05,536 --> 00:03:09,838 They have the fantasy sci-fi genre problem which is... 47 00:03:09,839 --> 00:03:14,086 always snubbed across the board at the Oscars, at the Emmys, all of these services award. 48 00:03:14,087 --> 00:03:18,989 But also it's campy, I am not sure that the Emmy voters get the jokes. 49 00:03:18,990 --> 00:03:23,131 Especially since Emmy voters are older and this show's viewers younger. 50 00:03:23,132 --> 00:03:26,144 The series about a college student who battles vampires, 51 00:03:26,145 --> 00:03:29,979 while trying to date and deal with the problems of an average young woman, 52 00:03:29,980 --> 00:03:31,824 was shut out of the nominations. 53 00:03:31,825 --> 00:03:35,623 Now the show's stars are voicing their opinions. 54 00:03:35,624 --> 00:03:39,233 Sarah Michelle Gellar spoke with us at the Teen choice awards. 55 00:03:39,234 --> 00:03:43,662 The Emmy is an old institution and we don't make our show for that. 56 00:03:43,663 --> 00:03:45,478 We make our show for these people. 57 00:03:45,479 --> 00:03:51,491 And I am sure a lot of people in the show would have loved it. To me, it's... you know... it's one less award show you had to get dressed up for. 58 00:03:51,492 --> 00:03:53,780 I am disappointed about it. I am sad. 59 00:03:53,781 --> 00:03:56,657 Everybody else is "Ho well you know it's OK..." 60 00:03:56,658 --> 00:03:58,392 No it's not. You know. 61 00:03:58,393 --> 00:04:00,811 The show just deserves it. Joss deserves it... 62 00:04:00,812 --> 00:04:02,942 deserves some sort of recognition. 63 00:04:06,067 --> 00:04:12,443 The cast is also unhappy that Buffy's creator and executive producer, Joss Whedon was overlooked. 64 00:04:12,444 --> 00:04:17,565 Even after he campained in the industry trades for a Series Emmy nomination. 65 00:04:17,566 --> 00:04:21,636 I was devastated that Joss did not any sort of a recognition. 66 00:04:21,637 --> 00:04:28,380 Or the make up, or you know the people that really really work so desperately hard. 67 00:04:28,381 --> 00:04:31,831 Buffy the Vampire Slayer has 2 things working against it: 68 00:04:31,832 --> 00:04:33,645 First of all it's a genre show. 69 00:04:33,646 --> 00:04:38,802 It's about vampires. It's not about Washington DC. It's not about mobsters. 70 00:04:38,803 --> 00:04:42,387 Also it's a teen show. It has hot young stars. 71 00:04:42,388 --> 00:04:45,922 The WB has largely promoted it as a teen show. 72 00:04:45,923 --> 00:04:50,589 So voters really don't respect these younger base shows as well. 73 00:04:50,590 --> 00:04:55,141 After 5 years on the WB, the show is moving to the UPN network. 74 00:04:55,142 --> 00:04:59,298 And co-start Michelle Trachtenberg has high hopes for the future. 75 00:04:59,299 --> 00:05:01,714 We make the show because we love to make the show. 76 00:05:01,715 --> 00:05:05,178 It would be wonderful to be honored by the Emmy Academy, 77 00:05:05,179 --> 00:05:09,055 But you know there is always next year. I think the fact that this year they... 78 00:05:09,056 --> 00:05:12,221 nominated a couple more younger actors, 79 00:05:12,222 --> 00:05:16,160 and may be next year they'll be more open to the show, because really truely is a brillant show. 80 00:05:16,161 --> 00:05:20,147 While these shows did not get recognized they are not completly ignored. 81 00:05:20,148 --> 00:05:23,800 Fans notice when their favorite shows don't get a nomination. 82 00:05:23,801 --> 00:05:29,084 Coming up we'll hear what the stars should do to get the television academy's attention. 83 00:05:29,085 --> 00:05:32,378 Sometime shows cross over between drama and comedy. 84 00:05:32,379 --> 00:05:37,080 That can make it difficult for members of the Television Academy to classify. 85 00:05:37,081 --> 00:05:41,121 I think it's where the dramady kind of category is tough 86 00:05:41,122 --> 00:05:47,668 You know when you're up against people from Will and Grace, and Frasier, and you know Friends, 87 00:05:47,669 --> 00:05:52,504 the stalwart, you know that is what America thinks of as comedy when they say "a comedy". 88 00:05:52,505 --> 00:05:55,351 Do we fit into drama, do we fit into comedy? 89 00:05:55,352 --> 00:05:57,126 We've always had that sort of dilemma 90 00:05:57,127 --> 00:06:02,613 And lately the Television Academy has been accused of being age-biased against youth. 91 00:06:02,614 --> 00:06:04,556 I'm not too surprised the actors didn't, 92 00:06:04,557 --> 00:06:09,760 just because we are looked at as a teen show and everything. 93 00:06:09,761 --> 00:06:13,298 The problem is that the Emmy board isn't really the people who are in... 94 00:06:13,299 --> 00:06:17,655 who can nominate the show because they don't watch the show. 95 00:06:17,656 --> 00:06:19,986 They are just not the target audiance. 96 00:06:19,987 --> 00:06:22,914 An other fact that causes the shows Emmy-overlooked 97 00:06:22,915 --> 00:06:26,248 there's just too many series to choose from. 98 00:06:26,249 --> 00:06:30,772 Boston public's Michael Rapaport said making a decision is tough. 99 00:06:30,773 --> 00:06:34,959 There are so many talented actors on TV 100 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,935 and so many very good shows, 101 00:06:36,936 --> 00:06:41,669 So people 're gonna get lost in the shuffle and there's politics involved and I don't reallyy... 102 00:06:41,670 --> 00:06:45,225 You know people know who's doing the good work and who is not. 103 00:06:45,226 --> 00:06:49,259 It always good to be recognized in that way, 104 00:06:49,260 --> 00:06:51,683 but I don't think you could really get hung up on it 105 00:06:51,684 --> 00:06:55,485 I think that if you look at the list of nominees, you can see that they are all... 106 00:06:55,486 --> 00:07:01,033 like deserve to be there, you know. Well they should be there. 107 00:07:01,034 --> 00:07:05,025 You know I'm a member of the academy, when you get the ballot to vote, 108 00:07:05,026 --> 00:07:08,387 You know you have a choice of... you get to pick 5 people, 109 00:07:08,388 --> 00:07:14,793 you look at the supporting actress category and it's 75 actresses 110 00:07:14,794 --> 00:07:18,656 most of which are just brillant actresses. 111 00:07:18,657 --> 00:07:21,503 So it's like Oh yeah, I gonna narrow that down to 5. 112 00:07:21,504 --> 00:07:24,253 Is that too much of a cheek? 113 00:07:24,254 --> 00:07:27,284 Despite the slightly overwhelming odds against them, 114 00:07:27,285 --> 00:07:32,678 There are certain things that can be done to increase the shows odds come Emmy time. 115 00:07:32,679 --> 00:07:34,564 You want an Emmy nomination? 116 00:07:34,565 --> 00:07:37,923 It just like everything else in life, you have to ask for it. 117 00:07:37,924 --> 00:07:40,184 You have to take out ads in the trade papers. 118 00:07:40,185 --> 00:07:43,030 You have to be visible during Emmy season, 119 00:07:43,031 --> 00:07:46,900 That means get on the talk show circuit, get on to Leno, get on to Letterman. 120 00:07:46,901 --> 00:07:51,701 If you have to get arrested, do that! It helped Robert Downey Jr 121 00:07:51,702 --> 00:07:55,863 How much you think I am prepared for it? You would be stand. 122 00:07:55,864 --> 00:08:01,837 Campaining is crucial across the board, trade ads, video tapes sent to the voters at home, 123 00:08:01,838 --> 00:08:07,663 a lot of TV is out there, and it's all competing for the same gold prize. 124 00:08:07,664 --> 00:08:10,622 You have to get noticed. That's what it's all about. 125 00:08:10,623 --> 00:08:14,586 Thanks Tom. Well the series we looked at today aren't in the running. 126 00:08:14,587 --> 00:08:17,176 There is always next year. So don't give up. 127 00:08:17,177 --> 00:08:21,764 From the Hollywood entertainment museum, thanks for joining us, I am Jules Azner. 128 00:08:23,090 --> 00:08:27,111 No Buffy I don't think so, frying pan and fire. You know what I'am saying 129 00:08:30,184 --> 00:08:32,100 Very nice, thank you all.